I wish they'd break it down a little so people using a dialup connection had a chance at it.(I managed to get some of the C code they supplied so I'm not complaining, but the utilities depend on DX9 & PS 7 so I might not be able to use it for any thing for a while.) Anyrate thanks Agent Smith; I didn't know Nvidia was getting that user friendly. I remember paying $100 for a SDK from creative for sound blaster a few years ago, so I didn't expect this! - TJ