Kate, The Bryce demo ,I think, is no longer available, at least from Meta Creations. I don't know if Corel has one available yet. Anyway, the demo was included on the Poser 4 CD :) And it's also on the Painter 6 CD. If I knew that it was OK to redistribute the demo, I'd be more than happy to do so (19 MB's). If you're interested, I will find out if it's OK for me to send you the demo version via email. If Corel (http://www.corel.com ) doesn't have a demo version available, then they're really just screwing themselves, and the fact that I bought it solely because I had the chance to try it out first is perfect testimony to that fact. So,if they DON'T have an "official" demo available, if you want, I'll email them and ask if it's OK to send you a copy. :) If you're interested, email me at mowenj@mediaone.net , and I'll get right on it... hey, I've got some of your Vue freebies :) so, I owe you one! Cheers! Mike