"And the ones who are convinced that all the naked Vickis here are a sign that women are demeaned somehow" JUst the logic that the display of nude women it what ever janra(spelling?) is also ridiculous. Take hetero porn for instance. Isn't the guy also being demeaned?Especiallly since the male actore only makes a quarter of what the females do. Okay, so some actors call the actresses names and stuff. I do think that that is piggish of men an therefore demeaning but still, in the end the actress has the upperhand. And what of gay porn? OF the two actors which is the one being demeaned? The catcher other pitcher? If both are not famous do they both make the same amount of money? Why is it that some women always complain about things that demean women but they never bother to mention that its demeaning to men too using thier logic. Its because really they know that its not demeaning and that they wish they were making the money that the actresses are. BTW they start at 1k per day all the way up to 5k and possibly more. Averge video can take up to 3 days and each actress pumps out, so to speak, several videos a month. Do the math who's being exploited here? The men. PeteJ