"... Really. Okay, once again I state: I don't care about nudity or sex in the least, so long as they're in the right places. If someone came into a public school and shoved her breasts at a kid, I'd call the cops and then take the kid to a therapist." And if I was your kid, I would kick you in the knee for calling the cops and then in your bits for wasting money on a shrink when all that needed to be done was for you and I to discuss what I saw. LOL. "If some woman was walking down the street and shoved her nude breasts at me? I'd call the cops and probably ask her what she was on." If some woman did that to me I'd love it. Especially if she was attractive. Similarly,I would bet that if a guy did that to you with his bits, you would not object in the least if he were attractive. If you did object then you would not be gay as you say you are. There's a time and a place for 'vulgar' nudity, and the freestuff area is NOT the place. There is no "vulgar" nudity in in the freestuff. I know this woman I work with who's boods are each larger than her waste and she is fat. Unattractive to me? Yes. Vulgar? no. Even when she grabs them to push them out of the way or reset them. Not vulgar. About the Renderotica remark: Well seeing how the display of nudity on the thumbs has been around since before what is now renderosity existed. Obviously it is appropriate for this website. PLease go create a Poser PC website for yourself and those like you if you wish. The way I see it, you have no right to complain. YOu knew what this site was all about the first time you came here and it will not waver from that in the future. Again stop surfing when your kids are around. Turn off the thumbs. YOu cannot have it both ways. Besides, in your case you do not need to see the thumbs since you do not feel the need to see what the upload does prior to your downloading it. PeteJ