I'm speaking as guy. For example, most straight men would love a woman to just walk up to hem and sy lets "F" Provided that the person approching were found to be attractive. And in some cases just the mear fact that they were approched in that way does great things for the esteem GAy or straight a guy will always be a guy. Women on the otherhand don't feel this way. They think they are being objectified. As men are too in the above example But eveyone objectifies everyone else. YOu see a guy across the room, you might think "wow he;s attractive" or "he's hot" or "wow I'd love to do it with him". Either way, you have just objectified him. YOu might be speaking to a guy, say over the phone or something. YOu tmight think "God his voice is sexy" YOu just objectified him The first time a person meet anyone, they objectify by thinking "Handsome", "Ugly", etc. A straight guy meets another straight guy for the first time who's face might all be twisted and if deemed offensive in some small way, they have objectified "So I guess that means the next time a man exposes himself indecently to me, I shouldn't object? Well no. OF course if the guy looks unattractive I guess you are free to do so. Even so, just the mere fact that he did it means your attractiveness compelled him to do so. If a female did that to me I would be flattered and it boosts my esteem immensly. How many guys do you know that would not welcome a "flasing" from a female. Likely none. Except maybe a priest or something. But we know deep down they really like it. Otherwise I must not be as straight as I say I am? Oh right, it's only if he's ugly that I should object? What, if he's good looking, I should be grateful for a glance at his dangly bits?" Not grateful but at leat feeling flattered maybe. PeteJ