>Okay, it was created using PPP. I always work with PPP. >I always test it in another version of PPP before submision. >I also always test in P4 before submitting to the MP. My finished products are always P4 compatible with no version number error messages). I tested this dress in p5 after I saw there was a problem in P4 to see what would happen. Like I said before, the clothing fits exactly like it was designed in both ppp and P5. When I tested it in P4, the clothing product just didnt fit at all right. There were plenty of pokethrus all over the body and the dress formed new pokethrus alltogether when the dressed was figure was posed. I never saw this happen before and my jaw was left hanging. Yes, I have been doing lots of last minute tweeking to the obj and don't remember paying any special attention to the rsr. I thought that the rsr was just a thumbnail file - I never dreamed it had anything to do with the way P4 handled the geometry. What the heck does the rsr file have to do with the obj anyway? Until I get a reply, I am going to erase the rsr and try it again and see if it starts working right. What the heck! If I posted pictures for you with circles, it wouldn't do any good, I would just have a bunch of pokethrus circled in one picture and none in the other. I thought I would post a picture to this forum thread anyway, so here is what the dress looks like.