I deleted the rsr file and let p4 make its own shrugging man thumb. I loaded the dress again in p4 and conformed the dress to the figure. There was a slight pokethru in one arm that should not have been there. I then posed her in this pose and got all these pokethrus. This doesn't happen in PPP. I would be willing to share the whole dress package if someone would like to look at it. Thank you Marty