Gotta agree with Caly here... (funny though, Khrys... you're so eager to let the thread die, yet you keep fueling it - strange.) Now, for the reason I posted? (cue ominous music here...) I find Xenophonz' views to be callous, cruel, and far too narrow for a civilized person. I hereby challenge Xenophonz to handbags at dawn! :p Oh, there was something else, too: Momodot sez: " I often wonder if the fellows who imagine women should feel flattered by catcalls are the same fellows who are enraged when an othetr man politely expresses interest in them?" Actually, the two aren't linked in any meaningful way, IMHO. There is a difference between the act of treating women (or anyone else for that matter) as mere playthings and disliking the gay lifestyle. Something to consider... /P