I'm afraid that if MetaCreations sells off it's 3D apps... it's going to be metastream that has no future. The moon thing should work... If I may ask, why a scene with no lights? I might have a tip or two if I was sure of what effect you were looking for...

"I am a good person now and it feels... well, pretty much the same as I felt before (except that the headaches have gone away now that I'm not wearing control top pantyhose on my head anymore)"

• Monkeysmell