Cant even get that far. Once I extract the plugins to the appropriate folders in Max, I try to launch the program. Max wont open. Says the plug-ins are out of date (lists the ones I just unzipped). Which baffles me cause the dates are newere than the ones that came with the program and they're for my current version of Max (which is 2.0). So importing aint the problem, it's getting the plugins to work. That's why I mentioned the workaround. dave