Well i myself may not ever go to inDesign. I have Quark and have been using it over 3 years. (well when i needed to use it). InDesign is very easy to learn and has a Photoshop familiarity, but Quark is also very simple. Both programs are of course great. Well i also use Photoshop a great deal, but i would never use it for brochures or manuals, etc. Well designing the graphics is fine but the main layout and the text is best done in Quark or inDesign. Well maybe even that other one ... Pagemaker now i remember the name ;) -LeFrog