Thank you for the quick replies. Sadly, you are both a bit over my head, but I'm trying to muddle through this. The illustrations were a huge help, Stewer. Thank you for taking the time to provide them.

This is infinately better on Koshini I think. Still need to work on the ball some.

What is the difference between a shadow lite cam and a shadow cam lite?

In this one I also made all the parts of the room that aren't visible in the actual render hidden as well. I should also turn off the shadows on the wall and floor I think is what you are saying spanki?