Actually I think part of the problem with M3 was Daz's implementation of the universal mesh. Basically if you're going to make v3, m3, freak and other's out of the same basic mesh, you're not going to get a good return on any of them. Like in the above pic, M3's pecks are way too high (probably as a compromise for V3's chest), middle length is too long (again that would work on V3 but not on a guy) and his thighs look too ballooned. Plus M3 just doesn't have an impressive stature.