I did not say that rendering in poser is easier than in other applications - rendering in poser is quite difficult and it takes a long time to accomplish something useful. People do not see this or make the time investment and "sometimes" apply a high amount of postwork to hide their mistakes. This is exactly the reason why Poser has no reputation in the 3dcg community. Look at the TOC of the Poser gallery: (cite)"This gallery is primarily for images rendered within Poser itself. Images of Poser figures rendered in other applications are still welcome, but what's the challenge in that? See how well you can do using it's basic rendering tools!" Then have a look at the posted pictures - more than half of them do not belong into this gallery - they belong into "mixed medium" - the emphasis is on "rendering tools" not on Photoshop tools. Mungo