Bruce,

Thank you again for hanging in there ;) I can't answer your question on what I might consider an extreme bondage pose because I haven't seen any here. I don't find bondage in and of itself disturbing as long as it's 2 (or more) consenting people. I suspect that a bondage scene might not have as much in the "grey" area as some of this other stuff simply because of the nature of the topic.

2 people being naked and near each other would give most people the illusion that something sexual is going to happen, just happened or might happen. Again, I don't care, but I think a little more direction on what is or is not ok would go a long way toward resolving this type of arguement.

If we look at it realistically people doing NVIATWAS are most likely doing it for the sexual aspect vs some great adoration of the human body. I do nudes/scantily clad women/provocative posed models etc, but I don't post them here because I want my non nude stuff to get a few viewings ;) Mostly I do them because I have fun dressing the models up...interactive Barbie of sorts. A learn a lot from doing that type of render that I can then apply to what I consider more "serious" work.

I'm not saying people who do nudes are not artists or are a lesser grade of artist. I have seen some beautiful nudes in the galleries (one of my favorite images is a nude waves at April). I am speaking for me personally that I don't consider my doing them serious. I do them for fun and to play around. That may change in the future after I have had the program for longer and am more experienced.

I am more than happy to simply skip images or threads that do not interest me. I do not want to only have images that I find appealing in the galleries..how boring that would be. That is a different issue than what I am trying to address with the TOS thing.

See you tomorrow (hopefully no one locks this in the meantime)

Towal