Yes the Gypsies suffer heavily, especially in the previous communist block where they suffer open discrimination and much rebuffing. In more western countries (such as France, alas), they are met with bias and suspicion and people are quick to blame them for petty thefts. They are often refused the right to have a camping site by certain mayors (under pressure from the population), to the point that a law had to be passed 2 years ago to make sure that they'll have camp site in every area. Back to WWII : a german scientific team "expertised" the genetic pool of the gypsies during WWII and recomended that they'd all be sterilised, but not killed in the death camps. How kindhearted... Gay people were also persecuted by nazi authorities in some countries, a sizeable number being put in concentration camps, but not in death camps (at least not as systematically as Jews were). Jews were systematically killed, according to a cold plan that used every standard of the industry to make it efficient. Only then it was the death of people which was the final product, thus the horror that it brings when you think of it.