veritas: They don't even KNOW WHO I AM! And neither do you know me. So, kindly quit being so patronizing and suggesting that I don't do anything, just because I'm not out to slob on Daz' knobs over an alpha version of a program, okay? I do plenty of work in four different programs, and I certainly don't need someone with rose-tinted glasses attempting badly to read me a 'newbie riot act' because I come in unbiased, rather than with some preconception that Daz3D is the be-all end-all. I came here for relatively unbiased opinion, and to discuss and compare what is being done with or said about D|S. I don't recall whining, unless pointing out flaws in an alpha release that will likely (hopefully) be addressed is whining. I could point out similar flaws in a lot of software, but it's a D|S forum, now, isn't it? It's obvious based on your thread titles, and your general demeanor, that you've either got issues with Poser/Curious Labs or simply worship zealously at the altar of Daz|Studio/Daz3D. Either is fine with me; it's your opinion and you've obviously made your money back and then some, so you're entitled to it. But there are plenty of people who can be devoted to their choice of software without leading in with condescending statements to that software's competitors' users, or calling out thread titles like 'Poser is Daz|Studio's little redhead stepchild monkeyboy!!!!' I suggest you take a cue from them. Like I said... I'm reserving judgment on the whole until it's stable. Yeah, it'll be free. Yeah, Daz is getting software and plugin developers. Yeah, it looks like it can do some decent things... but Poser 5 looked like it could do some decent things, too, and had a lot of people here salivating. It looks aight. But thus far, I haven't seen anything I would consider particularly groundbreaking, so rather than blast it or slobber on it, I'm biding my time to see what the end result is like. And forgive me for saying so, but I'm not nearly so sold on its producer as some might be... that's because I've seen Daz as a creature of whim as of late... working all-out on the biggest, newest thing and unveiling it to all sort of glorious fanfare, then slowly letting it fade from memory and fall wholly to their brokers as the newness begins to wear out and the next biggest, newest project comes along. That's my own personal opinion, and it doesn't reflect one way or the other on D|S as-is. And if you want to call it whining, fine. Like I said before. You don't know me.