Thanks for the help! I feel better knowing more about the problem. I'm a beginner poser user so I think I'll try and use the quick fix and turn off all the bodyparts that poke through (I can't believe I didn't think of that:)). And when I get the time I'll check out PhilC's tutorials, they seemed great. Poser is definatly not easy byt maybe some day I'll learn to master this program!:) Dan