Well, kimpe, I just made up my mind that I was sick and tired of being sick and tired. I still think about it, but don't act on it, keeping busy as much as I can and eating lots of nuts and seeds when I'm not. The first time I quit I was up to 2 paks a day. Quit cold-turkey and was free of 'em for over 20 years. Then I got all stupid in my head about a year and a half ago and started up again. Only this time around a pack of filters didn't cost .25 like it did in the '70's. I need my paychecks for something better anyways, like buying some super neat objects for my Bryce. wink