Ill tell you something else, I like poser4 for quick renders,minor texture editing and figure editing. Poser5 even with 2.5 gigs of memory on a pentium 4 is still lagging, It's now a program I can use but it's still not as fast as poser4. But since it has a really good rendering engine I use it to do my final renders now and for some of the perks it has. My other computer I am retiring since christmass, is Pentium 3 and poser5 made it run like molassis. .....