Hi ho hi ho its back to magnets I go Just tried my idea out in P5, it works, but not as nicely as I had hoped. But then, I rarely get the results I want from the cloth room. I guess I still have not got a good understanding of how to set things up there. And, Tailor, well as is so often the case, some morphs turn out okay, and others do not. I guess a lot of that has to do with the construction of the mesh. Sounds like you are having better luck at it that I am, so here's two thumbs up to you. I will go back to using magnets to reshape the mesh to fit SP3 as I find I have more control over how it turns out that way. If you do happen to stumble upon the Holy Grail for SP3, let me know. Calling it quits for now.