Nance, thanks for your input. I would just like to point out that 'new discovery' means new to me, and judging by the posts, to a few other people too. you may or may not have seen it in the html, but I did mention that all this stuff may be well-known to anyone into animation, which I am (obviously) not, so I guess that explains a lot. I'm just a bit behind in all this stuff, so be patient with me and the others who aren't animators. I'm not trying to take credit for something that was blind luck. and yes, I do (uh-hmm) have a manual. maclean