"But since I've already made a $2000 plus deal on a DS ALPHA render- I've already made ALL my money back! I make MONEY because I DO STUFF, not WHINE ABOUT STUFF. Go over to the Poser forum if you like to whine about stuff." Wow, that is about the most condescending thing I have seen in a while. I am glad for yout hat you made some cash with the D|S render... more power to you and a bright future. But don't assume that this means everyoen who doesn't like your favorite tool are whiners. D|S studio is cute, and I am sure it will grow up to be a useful application - but there isn't a thing it does right now that can't be done in Poser 5. The OpenGL preview renders are nice - but I know none of my clients would be happy with them. In its raw form 3Delight is certainly capable of going toe to toe with Firefly... but at the moment at least for my purposes I need more support than the alpha version od D|S is goign to give me aroudn the renderer. I like Daz, I hope D|S works out well... but to imply that anyoen who doesn't think it kicks as is a whiner who never "does anything" is short sighted.