Hehe. I don't use Daz, and before Veritas777 came into the 3dsMax forum, I didn't know what it even was, but I have to come back here now and again, because I get a kick out of this guy. I don't think I've seen someone so pumped up about a piece of software before. I just have to comment though on what you said above. LOL. I work professionally in the FX industry as do many of the folks on the 3dsMax forum. I for one have to wonder why, if you're making so much money, you just don't upgrade your hardware to something more "industrial", since it seems to be speed that you're most concerned with. Oh, and also why use such low-end software? Again, if speed is your main concern, and you're making all this money, then there's no better investment for a professional than to put it into some higher end software that is 10X faster at rendering than this Daz Studio seems to be. If you were using Max, for example, rendering shadows is nothing. Doesn't take up but a few seconds of rendertime in scanline, and even raytraced shadows aren't that expensive (in terms of time consumption). GI (Global Illumination) is a must for my industry, and can be costly in terms of time, but without shadows there's no way your portfolio would be impressive enough to get hired at any large production house where you could possibly make the big bucks. I don't know who your clients are, and you said you're an illustrator... where exactly have your works been published outside of public websites and galleries? I mean, maybe illustrations don't need realistic shadows to look impressive to clients, but I think if your competition uses them, and has the same or better talent than you do, you could be in for some rough times financially. I hope you have your clients well-guarded! Hey, in your own words "Tell me I'm wrong!" hehe. ;-)