Well, I'm glad to see Veritas has some fans out there. I have nothing against him personally at all, and I love his enthusiasm, but since he did ask for people to "tell him he's wrong", I decided to give my perspective. :-) All in all, I disagree with it being a UNIQUE concept in 3D to turn off shadows. I think for most people starting out, it's a revelation just to get them turned ON. LOL. Realistic Light and shadow is one of the most difficult things to master in 3D software, and I see all too often newcomers (especially to the more complex 3D applications) just avoid adding lights and shadows to their work altogether. There's evidence of this throughout the galleries. For example, it's a tell-tale sign that you are new to Max when you simply render your images with the default lighting and no shadows... because that's the way it's set up to render when you initially open the application for the first time. So most people new to the software don't know how to add lights to a scene, and just hit the render button as-is. Anyway, this is getting silly. Veritas, no hard feelings man, congrats on your success, and keep up the enthusiasm. :-)