Ok gang, we really need to turn the conversation to things other than the person posting...perhaps things like what could be better with the test renders? Or, dare I say...test renders of your own. This is the Daz Studio forum afterall...I would imagine most of you either have it or plan to get it. Instead of ragging on Veritas, try to either restrict your comments to the work presented or post work you feel better display the potential of the program. Personally, I have no intent on getting Daz Studio but I was still able to give a constructive criticism of the artwork presented here. I'd also expect that sort of thing to continue when others are posting or I will be forced to take steps. Veritas, while I understand your recent reply to comments previously made, I must also ask that you try to take the higher ground too. Sometimes the open hand works better than the closed fist. Now, again, I ask you all to play nice.