geep, Now if you do one of these in poser, you know I'm going to be watching every step trying to duplicate what you do. dlk30341, Yeah, I wish they would sell those separately too. There are several plants I'd like to get but I don't want to have to buy the entire collection either. Crescent, I've asked Judith about it several months ago but they have so much going on, it's hard for them to do a special request. She has a to do list a mile long.