millman: No problem. I just wanted to make sure people didn't miss the message - PAYPAL ARE THIEVES! They have 3 accounts on file for me - a checking account (which I closed), another checking account (which has at the most $5 in it and we never use it, just haven't gotten around to closing it, but we should) and the credit card that they just asked me to update - closed that account as well. Just because I closed my accounts, I don't feel any LESS vunerable. Obviously, from what I've seen at the sites linked to above, they can get away with alot and not be held accountable. It's also kind of curious that at the same time this was happening, someone had fradulently charged about $600. on my debit card (also available at the time to PayPal). Luckily the merchant made note that I live in NY and the shipping address was Florida. He called me to verify the purchase and of course I told him I did NOT make nor authorize the purchase.