Oh, those are beautiful! You have inspired me for sure.. I love the red "Cheif" colors. Frankly, I'll try it first in Wings to see if I can't get a more manageable mesh out of it...are all of the blossoms Cross Like (two long, two short) or do some have balanced petal lengths? Carolly's points are well taken, and tonight, I'll give it a second go:) Probably can't offer a fully matured one with the number of blossoms your picture shows, but we'll see how full we can get it! eric