Hey mem, Um, I don't know exactly what you mean by "fiddle." Wavefront object (.obj) files are widely used by CG programs. I am surprized that 3DS max 5 does not support them. Are you certain about that? You might want to start with the Specification for an ,obj file. You can find it HERE. Look on page 2. Object (.obj) files are text files that you can look at and modify using a plain old text editor. There are many free modeling programs that will give you the ability to "play" with an object. Check out Anim8tor. Good luck with your "journey." cheers, dr geep ;=]

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cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

edited 10/5/2019