catlin: the really few and pityful tests i made before Doc's tutorial when i was trying to lern all alone taught me that poser light is both a plague and a savior. I mean, the light system is very strange compared to most 3d softwares, and it is so dissapointing (from the opinion of many) that most people export their poser scenes and render them in ANYTHING else rather than poser (well except a bunch of crazy asiate users that manage to make pure poser renders that really look good) on the other way, despite the fact it is very strange and slippery thing, the light system is most of the time the key to save, improve or change your picture beyond recognition. i once used a dull character body/head texture with dumb ligthing (close to defaults), to show a friend the difference, then with a smalllight setting i stumped on by mere luck. it was night and day ! I don't care how much time doc has to take for this tut, i'm in till the end