Thanks to everyone so far for the responses so far! These are all great ideas. People are not impossible, but with the availablity of Poser, the question is why? Still, it does pose a tempting challenge ;-) Trees/flowers/shrubs - Especially shrubs (IMHO). There's probably always room more vegitation (native or importable). PS Somebody give gebe a big hug, she deserves it. My inexperience and ignorance here at Renderosity has no doubt tried her patience on several occasions, but she has been nothing but kind and accomodating. Thanks Gebe.