Talk about late! This thread is 2 years old! I used to be a software support and call center manager. I have been downsized so many times that I feel like Papa Smurf! So I went back to my former career optics. I sell and make glasses. On the side I do web design, graphic art, database creation, and spreadsheet creation and developement. I am also the Treasurer for the Diabolique Foundation (www.diaboliqueball.org). My long term goal is to make enough of a living in photography to avoid the rat race until I die. Or at least make photos that make people think or at least feel something. my short term goal is to just get time to shoot someting! (with a camera that is!) Magick Michael