LonCray, where verdammt do you think i live? donnerwetter noch einmal! ("noch einmal" = once again; for some reason enhances the meaning) please keep in mind that german with all its colurs is extremely flexible. like: what is a strong word in some region would mean nothing to someone coming from another place. i remember a colleague who would not been angry to be called an "idiot", but calling hin a "dubel" (pronounced "doooble") would have upset him. also: words change their meaning in time. maybe "donnerwetter" was a strong word say 100 years ago, nowadays it is merely a word of surprize.