Sounds interesting. I have experimented with different things, but in the end for certain kinds of poses it is easier to Not conform the clothing, and just use a pose file to match the clothing to the figure - or else pose it by hand to look like I want it. A lot of my GR items require the mesh to move in ways Poser doesn't care for, but I always find a way to do it. Not always the best of solutions, but Poser - while I love it - is not a perfect world. Thanks for you comments. I will take a look at your Villiage People to see what you are doing there. Rob