striving- I agree with you about the Hot 20 pics. . . Most of the time I just shake my head and grin to myself regarding the comments of praise that have been posted on some very poor images. . . .You should remember that this forum isn't the real world but it is a reflection of the real world ! . . . . Just as in the real world, as our participation in the forum increases. . . .we learn who is sincere and who isn't. . . . likewise when we view the galleries we learn to identify the talented artists and those who need some nurturing. . . . . I've been a member like yourself for two years now. . . . have had my frustrations at times. . . . but I have found that there are still many honest and talented individuals who participate in this forum who care as much about learning and sharing as I do! . . . . and there will always be new members like scrap and Melansian Mentat who , judging by their comments, have a sincere desire to join the community as honest participants. I have learned to ignore , sometimes it is difficult, the negative forces which I encounter in this community and respond to the positive ones just as I would in the real world. Why? In the long run, I think it's worth it! : )