Bruce, I feel ya man....I understand completely.. I've also been considering leaving Renderosity...I've not been here as long as you have, nor does my work even compare to yours. But it seems lately, not here in the Bryce forum, but in general, it's more frustrating then it's really worth. I've begun a futile attempt to sell a few items in the MP that are NOT poser related, and in doing so, I follow the Merchant forum. I've also started following the Community forum... Each time I click out of those, to come here to the Bryce forum, I feel so frustrated, reading all the arguments, bashing, complaining, whining... Sometimes I think people, in their journey to succeed, forget what is it that made them find this path to start with. The ENJOYMENT of the art, no matter how are is defined. When that enjoyment is gone, and the pleasure of creating wonderful things is gone....there's no desire left to stay. ALOT of people with BIG names (big names meaning popular people with great work) have been leaving lately, due to many reasons, of which I don't know. With some support (not so much voiced, but just in friendly and helpful, sincere people) I've stayed alot longer then I would have otherwise. I understand also how hard a decision like this is for you. Along the way, and through the time here, we do make "friends" and develop a bond somewhat like a family with some...and that's not easy to leave.. As far as the HOT20 goes...The thrill of being voted in fades, sometimes all too soon.. But the connections made with friends, will stay with you for much longer. Take care Bruce, and I hope that you find the passion again in your art! Without that, we get burnt out all too quickly. If it takes leaving here to do that, then I'm very happy for you!! And perhaps in time, you will come back home again... BIGGGGG HUGSSSS Jen