LOL! So that's why Poser has been making those rattling noises. :O) Very Interesting.... sounds like ISOP has found a way, so that is encouraging. I have been experimenting with pose files, using different script for the conforming command (pardon my improper use of terms, but I was never very good at jargon and getting the names of things right.) I also had this idea to try using cr2 that only had the shin and feet body groups, (since that was all I wanted to have conform. I thought maybe I could conform that to the base figure, and then my clothing to the cr2 I had confromed. But Poser thought otherwise, and I have gotten some weird results. I am still playing around with that approach, but ISOPs method sounds more promising now. Thanks for the heads up.