Many of those boarders in the MAT zones have to be straiter I know, this is just a general layout. I am going to do some more adjustments to the mesh before redoing the mat layout perfect. Here is what the mesh looks like, I have been experiementing in a way to cut the mesh in the nurbs modeling software so I have smoother cuts where the groups boarder one another. Like I said before, modeling for poser is a balancing act, its a real art. You can't do everything that you want. This is the first time I ever got my method to work with out adverse side effects. The real trick is to do those cuts and make them invisable in the working poser model. Well, what I am saying the side effects have been minimalized by balancing several aspects so the method seems to be working for the first time. I attempted it on my MiniDress and it didn't work there, but I have learned a few things since. I couldn't do some cuts like up seperating the collars from the breast, becuase that cut really puts a distortion between the breasts. This is experiemntal and I don't know if I will try it again in my next project, we will see how it goes this time. marty