The goddess Mahna figured out my issue.. it wasnt poser OR P3DO.. it was a lack of coffee and lack of attention. Check it out. I made the thumbs in photoshop right? Did the type and what not and saved as a png.. Well what stacey dearest FORGOT to do.. was FLATTEN the damned image prior to saving as a png. Heres what happened. I made the thumb and put my type on it. I did a 'merge down' rather than a 'flatten image' I saved as a png I opened said png into p3do ( keep in mind, this is a program that SEES unmerged photoshop images as well) I saved the unmerged png to .rsr Now.. the image is -still- unmerged even though its now in rsr format. This is why we could -see- the rsr's in P3do yet not see them within poser. P3do could see if because it can see unmerged images. Poser has not yet been made that spiffy :P So.. to all you thumb makers out there.. Dont do this.. it sucks. g Thanks for all the help gang, sorry to sound the alarm fo nothing :P -stace-