ironbear, thanks. I got the ear morphs from Traveler and tried them. I think I prefer the ears on her, but I'd probably put a morph in anyway. Don't know about other textures, as this one's taking me a long time. For some reason, every time I use the natural brushes in Photoshop, my computer crashes. 5 or 6 times an evening, so it's slow going!! thanks for the interest, guys. will plod on. thinking of including the texture as a Photoshop layer so you can put it straight over any P4 fem. maybe better. maclean