Please be gentle. this is the first render I have publicly posted. I usually just play, but have not done anything I feel is upto being posted for public viewing. I am also trying to use P5 to achieve reflections. Anyway to cut a long story short. Here is a render using the Daz airstewdess outfit. V3 on the left. V2 on the right. textures on V3 are freckle pakII V2 is Zeta3d's Sirya/Zodya pack.