thanks dr. geep, i hadn't seen that you had replied this to me already... wow, first time I know you can actually double click on the dials!!! talk about being in the dark for so long... thanks so much for the great tutorial, i really learnt a lot today! and Ben, maybe you're right that twiztidkidd may be using some of those lighting sets, but I guess I'll go for the doc's approach, where less lights are better to control.