Cool! That looks great. :-) But I'm still wondering what caused the problem. Is it one I'm ever likely to run across? Okay, it's probably not likely I'll ever make anything as elaborate as Marforno, but you never know. ;-) Little Dragon once showed me how to split vertices to keep Poser 5 from smoothing polygons where you don't want them smoothed. Are there any similar tips for this problem?