I'm the hobbyist. If you like, add my web page, http://home.att.net/~ozolins/ (Graphic Cheeseworks) Oh yeah, James.. How could anyone think Truespace's interface is intuitive?? I played with TS3 for ages, never could accomplish anything. Bryce 2 was the first 3d proggy I ever played with, just loaded it up and started working. Very easy to pick up... Oh well. To each their own, I guess. =)