"lol seen the interfaces for Maya Max and lightwave... and ran screaming .... you say that tS has too many icons.. those have 2 many buttons and menu's and submenus... and submenus of submenus... wish we could find away to streamline all 3D apps... but as each new feature gets added.... " This is true, but Max at least is totally configurable. You don't have to have ANY Icons visible, only top level menu if you want. I never used Truespace, but I know it's definitely not as flexible in the GUI area. I have used PS, and even though it's THE best graphics editor around, I'll be the first to admit that it's the most clumsy piece of GUI nightmare I've ever used. That damn floating toolbar is a pain in the ass, and you always need the thing open. As for Poser and Bryce, never used em, but the sight of their GUI scares me. This Daz one doesn't look as bad.