Just read this thread to see what all was said, and... Dynamic hair collisons are a major pain in the butt, and still dinnae work right. There are other issues, as well, that prevent the hr2 files from working correctly when used on a system other than the creators. I found the problem, will have a tute on it next week up at rdna. P5 hair doesn't export polygons because, my understanding, it doesn't technically have any. It's strictly extensions of the vertices themselves. (Please correct me if I am wrong) Seems similar to many of the special effects found in other comparably priced packages. Not certain that would be an easy fix, though. I'm currently running P5 on an Athlon 2400 withonly 384MB of RAM and rendering even complex scenes (with 2 V3, 3 M3, and seven P4 figures, as well as a fullly decked out retail store scene) and having no problems. Even have a bolt of dynamic cloth, lol. As an animation (ok, it does take a day to render, but I can live with that), no less. I've said it before, I'll say it again: DAZ has never said that D|S would be free. They have said the BETA would be free. Pretty tight distinction there. I think it's interesting how in some points one can ask for some rather interesting new features, and then say don't add them. Gist of it all: 1 - memory leak fix (ie, stop searching for files) 2 - Open GL support 3 - scrap the interface (although I like it, darn it!) 4 - Improve what's currently in it before adding 5 - make it cheap. It was noted that the survey will likely be filled with some very negative commentary -- assuming that it's in a format allowing for text entry. I'd just like to point out that if I were the person who had to compile all those survey responses, the ones I would be LEAST likely to pay attention to were the ones that contained vitriol. For one, it makes me ill to read it, and for two, it's simply rude. I would hope that the level of passion displayed translates well when the opportunity arrives -- no CS person is paid to be yelled or cursed at, and often times have permission to simply hang up. Far more flies with honey and sh*t, not quite as many with vinegar and piss

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)