Well DM, this is an eternal problem for everyone using P4. And yes, it means work - organizing folders and sutff. And no, it's not the merchant's or freebie maker's fault. It's your problem, keeping your folder system in good shape. I spend a lot of time organizing my stuff, it's the only way I'll ever find any of it. ------------------------------------ Phantast - nested folders is of course standard in P5, it's the only reasonable way to go. P4 had the folder level limitation you mention, not P5. And there's no reason to have multiple Runtimes. I certainly down't have, in spite of ENORMOUS, RIDICULOUS numbers of files. :] Fish