Gee, wouldnt it be nice if there was a forum where members could argue and Debate any topic they wanted? You know, so software forums (like the Poser forum for instance) would be free from such annoyances? Oh thats right, we used to have one, it was called C&D. Hmmmmm maybe the admins should have listened when the members said the arguments of C&D would spill over into the software forums.