i'm already studying the site but i whish they'd tell more new maya sounds interesting (used to work with very old version once) i hope there're a load of manuals, cause i'm willing to learn ;-) do you know the price of maya (complete/unlimited) i can't find any sales info 3dsmax+Cs is about $5000,- here and softimage about $7000-$11000,- what about maya? -Ede